Post by Verius on Feb 21, 2007 0:11:43 GMT -1
Color me a pessimist by saying this, but, and hear me out... I do believe that everyone loses innocence in that, they no longer are ignorant to the rough spots of life. They have grown up in a sense, and are now more worldly, they no longer look at life as though everything is good, and right, and will work out fine "Just 'cause." This kind of innocence cannot be regained, 'cause face it, you're never going to realize, "Hey people kill each other, and themselves!" and the next day, someone tells you things are better than you think going back to, "Oh, a person could never do something like that to someone else, it's just cruel and horrid, and it could never happen." People may do that in a form of denial, but they won't truly believe it.
I don't think children are the most innocent, personally. They have yet to prove whether or not their actions can be deemed innocent, and therefore, they cannot be judged in such a way. One does not start being something that has to be attained, without having done anything at all.
Personally, I'd like to think I'm more mature, and act more like an "adult" (should) than the others of my age group who seem to disdain the act of using the brain, or even the act of being polite. I mean... I raced to being an adult, because in my own self-righteousness (to an extent), I look down on the stupid behavior I see all the time. I didn't do it to prove to adults I was capable of their little tasks. Personally, I think a good portion of adults that discriminate by age should be torn a new one for making themselves seem high and mighty, when they're acting just like the "little kiddies" they make fun of. I'll admit as well, that I tend to suppress my "inner child" mostly for the fact that... with my limited contact with most people... it's generally an unnecessary trait for me to have. I don't think anyone should ever try to suppress it to the point of getting rid of it, but I don't think that people should flaunt their inner child and use it as an excuse for everything. I'm in of an opinion to save the full extent of my inner child, for someone special, so I leave it in a little box shelved inside myself, where it won't get dirty while I wait for that person. I'm separating myself into two pieces, planting one half out in the world, to grow up and see things for what they are... and planting the other in a special little locked dome, and only giving the key to the person who will appreciate and nurture it (as well I'd wish the same of the other person. ^^) However, it's not to say the my 'inner child' will always be the same if it remains in its little dome. A plant needs light to grow, so its little dome is clear, one can see through it, but that's all you can do; See. So, my inner child matures as well, because it's seeing these things, and learning slowly, but not being directly exposed to them.
Simply put, I agree with you. To relate this to art, it is much like how everyone draws at different speeds. This doesn't make any of them better or worse at drawing, it's just how they are. However, if you ever take an art class, the teachers will rush you, and force you to draw faster, making mistakes, but having no time to fix them. Everyone grows differently, as well, all into different people. In an ideal situation, most will realize their problem, and at least work to amend it. Though this isn't usually the case. This is usually because we grow without too much guidance, so... we don't really know what'll work better, and what'll work worse. We pick one, try it, know nothing else, and are labeled with whatever for most (if not all) of our teen life.
I agree with you again... simply to say, instead of stamping something out, it should be molded to meet the needs, and everyone should be able to feel free to enjoy what makes them happy, without worry of being ridiculed for it.
I personally see myself as having reached a point of stagnation to some sense. I'm in a waiting phase. I've gone as far as I'd like to go right now... and I'm waiting for life to catch up. I'm waiting for life to throw me a loop, give me something now, and in the event it doesn't... I sit and plan - whether it be simple day dreaming, or an actual act of preparing myself - for that future I want to make mine, even if it isn't entirely my choice. (I'll be damned if that stops me from trying, though.)
Now, here I agree with you, up until you talk about work. While work should be serious, it doesn't have to be, put a rough face on, grit your teeth and bear it; It should be something you enjoy, and actually want to do. The ideal situation is a job where we do something we enjoy, because it means that we want to work, what we do will be better, and the mistakes that are there will be honest, and not because you half-assed something, trying to get out of it as fast as you could. I want to be able to act like I kid where I work, and get along with my co workers, make the place I'll have to spend every day, hours at a time, fun. I want at least, for it to have some traces of each person's inner child. The inner child is what creates the truly beautiful things, even if the hardened exterior can create things that send meaningful messages. However, it's even more ideal to put the two together. Put that innocent beauty into all these things you've learned, and show what it means to be a representative of all the airy ideals that many humans come up with. I dunno about anyone else, but I've always wanted to be able to stand fast and show that I'll stand by every little word I say, every far-fetched claim to heroism... I'll do as much as I can do, as myself, to make them at least partway true. I think it'd be nice, just for myself to know that, these big claims of wanting to save people, might come true... and that truth can be seen behind them. If I ever thought I could, I'd try to hold onto those things seen as childhood fantasies, for the world. In that, though... we all need a little taint, to know what it is we have to hold onto, and what we can actually do to save this world of ours.
I see this more as... parents look at these things like, what's more easily attainable for my child? Obviously, many might think that one who excels in school would be better off in the world. That's where the thought goes wrong, Academic knowledge, and Worldly-ness are two very different things. The only problem is, in fact, that common sense can't very well be taught. They have to be learned by one's self, however, this can be through observation of another. However, most disdain these things and decide they know what's what, only to go out any put themselves in unnecessarily stupid positions.
I won't say I'm in between. I'd say that I lean more toward being mature, because I prefer to exhibit that attitude when all that's around me is people who can't seem to act older than a day over five, because they think it makes them special. Sure, I'll enjoy myself like any other teenager might, but I'd much prefer not to be considered part of the same group as most of those in my school.
Most people think that, 'cause that does come from ignorance as a child. You start with, when you become thirteen, you're a teenager, and then around twenty you become and "Adult," 30~ you've reached middle age, and 60+ you've now become a senior. You tend to think this so long as a child, that it becomes fact to yourself.
CHIII: (next)
(I'll leave off with this (for now), 'cause my concentration is slowly slipping. 'Sides, I need to get that picture that you forgot to give me! >.<!)
I don't think children are the most innocent, personally. They have yet to prove whether or not their actions can be deemed innocent, and therefore, they cannot be judged in such a way. One does not start being something that has to be attained, without having done anything at all.
Personally, I'd like to think I'm more mature, and act more like an "adult" (should) than the others of my age group who seem to disdain the act of using the brain, or even the act of being polite. I mean... I raced to being an adult, because in my own self-righteousness (to an extent), I look down on the stupid behavior I see all the time. I didn't do it to prove to adults I was capable of their little tasks. Personally, I think a good portion of adults that discriminate by age should be torn a new one for making themselves seem high and mighty, when they're acting just like the "little kiddies" they make fun of. I'll admit as well, that I tend to suppress my "inner child" mostly for the fact that... with my limited contact with most people... it's generally an unnecessary trait for me to have. I don't think anyone should ever try to suppress it to the point of getting rid of it, but I don't think that people should flaunt their inner child and use it as an excuse for everything. I'm in of an opinion to save the full extent of my inner child, for someone special, so I leave it in a little box shelved inside myself, where it won't get dirty while I wait for that person. I'm separating myself into two pieces, planting one half out in the world, to grow up and see things for what they are... and planting the other in a special little locked dome, and only giving the key to the person who will appreciate and nurture it (as well I'd wish the same of the other person. ^^) However, it's not to say the my 'inner child' will always be the same if it remains in its little dome. A plant needs light to grow, so its little dome is clear, one can see through it, but that's all you can do; See. So, my inner child matures as well, because it's seeing these things, and learning slowly, but not being directly exposed to them.
Simply put, I agree with you. To relate this to art, it is much like how everyone draws at different speeds. This doesn't make any of them better or worse at drawing, it's just how they are. However, if you ever take an art class, the teachers will rush you, and force you to draw faster, making mistakes, but having no time to fix them. Everyone grows differently, as well, all into different people. In an ideal situation, most will realize their problem, and at least work to amend it. Though this isn't usually the case. This is usually because we grow without too much guidance, so... we don't really know what'll work better, and what'll work worse. We pick one, try it, know nothing else, and are labeled with whatever for most (if not all) of our teen life.
I agree with you again... simply to say, instead of stamping something out, it should be molded to meet the needs, and everyone should be able to feel free to enjoy what makes them happy, without worry of being ridiculed for it.
I personally see myself as having reached a point of stagnation to some sense. I'm in a waiting phase. I've gone as far as I'd like to go right now... and I'm waiting for life to catch up. I'm waiting for life to throw me a loop, give me something now, and in the event it doesn't... I sit and plan - whether it be simple day dreaming, or an actual act of preparing myself - for that future I want to make mine, even if it isn't entirely my choice. (I'll be damned if that stops me from trying, though.)
Now, here I agree with you, up until you talk about work. While work should be serious, it doesn't have to be, put a rough face on, grit your teeth and bear it; It should be something you enjoy, and actually want to do. The ideal situation is a job where we do something we enjoy, because it means that we want to work, what we do will be better, and the mistakes that are there will be honest, and not because you half-assed something, trying to get out of it as fast as you could. I want to be able to act like I kid where I work, and get along with my co workers, make the place I'll have to spend every day, hours at a time, fun. I want at least, for it to have some traces of each person's inner child. The inner child is what creates the truly beautiful things, even if the hardened exterior can create things that send meaningful messages. However, it's even more ideal to put the two together. Put that innocent beauty into all these things you've learned, and show what it means to be a representative of all the airy ideals that many humans come up with. I dunno about anyone else, but I've always wanted to be able to stand fast and show that I'll stand by every little word I say, every far-fetched claim to heroism... I'll do as much as I can do, as myself, to make them at least partway true. I think it'd be nice, just for myself to know that, these big claims of wanting to save people, might come true... and that truth can be seen behind them. If I ever thought I could, I'd try to hold onto those things seen as childhood fantasies, for the world. In that, though... we all need a little taint, to know what it is we have to hold onto, and what we can actually do to save this world of ours.
I see this more as... parents look at these things like, what's more easily attainable for my child? Obviously, many might think that one who excels in school would be better off in the world. That's where the thought goes wrong, Academic knowledge, and Worldly-ness are two very different things. The only problem is, in fact, that common sense can't very well be taught. They have to be learned by one's self, however, this can be through observation of another. However, most disdain these things and decide they know what's what, only to go out any put themselves in unnecessarily stupid positions.
I won't say I'm in between. I'd say that I lean more toward being mature, because I prefer to exhibit that attitude when all that's around me is people who can't seem to act older than a day over five, because they think it makes them special. Sure, I'll enjoy myself like any other teenager might, but I'd much prefer not to be considered part of the same group as most of those in my school.
Most people think that, 'cause that does come from ignorance as a child. You start with, when you become thirteen, you're a teenager, and then around twenty you become and "Adult," 30~ you've reached middle age, and 60+ you've now become a senior. You tend to think this so long as a child, that it becomes fact to yourself.
CHIII: (next)
(I'll leave off with this (for now), 'cause my concentration is slowly slipping. 'Sides, I need to get that picture that you forgot to give me! >.<!)